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Kim and John reflect on the state of the entertainment industry and how it desperately needs a visionary. With the death of Steve Jobs this year they discuss how he was able to be a visionary, of course, in terms of hardware and but also -- with his purchase and support of Pixar -- in terms of software. And they wonder who could be that for Hollywood as it negotiates a future where how people watch films (on what devices and in what form) and what they choose to watch will determine the fate of the industry.

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