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The killing of Osama bin Laden might lead to change in American strategy. Will it accelerate the withdrawal of troops from Afghanistan? What will it mean for relations with Pakistan, a nuclear power under suspicion of ties with terrorists? Also, the White House will not release photos of bin Laden, and trying to manage the Mississippi.

Banner image: A Pakistani man reads a newspaper displaying news of the death of Osama bin Laden at a stall in Lahore on May 3, 2011. The US closed two of its consulates in Pakistan to the public until further notice, a day after bin Laden was killed. Photo: Arif Ali/AFP/Getty Images

Producers:
Gary Scott
Christian Bordal
Andrea Brody

Reporter's Notebook Flood Worries Prompted Blast of Missouri Levee 7 MIN, 24 SEC

The Army Corps of Engineers is trying to manage the Mississippi River, the world's third biggest watershed after the Congo and Amazon. But blasting two miles of levees to ease a threat to Cairo, Illinois means flooding farms in Missouri, and there's rising concern down the river all the way to Louisiana and Mississippi. Flood levels have dropped in Illinois, but Missouri farmers are going to court, and there've been precautionary evacuations in Tennessee. Last week, Governor Haley Barbour started warning about possible flooding in Mississippi. Michael Grunwald writes about efforts to manage water resources for Time magazine.

Guests:
Michael Grunwald, Time magazine (@MikeGrunwald)

The Swamp

Michael Grunwald

Making News White House Will Not Release Photos of bin Laden 7 MIN, 28 SEC

The Obama Administration has decided not to release the death photo of Osama bin Laden despite remarks last night by CIA Director Leon Panetta. Today it appears that concern about possible backlash has persuaded the President not to release the photo after all. Michael Hirsch is chief correspondent at the National Journal.

Guests:
Michael Hirsh, National Journal (@michaelphirsh)

Guest Interview AfPak, after Osama 35 MIN, 42 SEC

Osama bin Laden has been killed at last, but America's leaders are not saying "Mission Accomplished" in Afghanistan. Is al Qaeda still a threat in that country or is the Obama Administration's massive military commitment an example of "mission creep?" The White House calls nuclear-armed Pakistan "a key partner in the fight against al Qaeda and terrorism." But CIA Director and prospective Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta told a congressional briefing, "Either they're involved or incompetent." Did Pakistan knowingly shelter Osama? Is it a friend, a foe or an ally of necessity? We ask if it's time for the US to reassess strategy in a dangerous part of the world.

Guests:
Brian Katulis, Center for America Progress (@Katulis)
Stephen Biddle, Council on Foreign Relations
Sebastian Rotella, ProPublica
Shuja Nawaz, Atlantic Council of the United States

Crossed Swords

Shuja Nawaz

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