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After some tough talk from President Obama, frenzied negotiations are under way to save the climate change talks from total failure. We get a progress report from Copenhagen and hear what might happen next.  Also, what climate change already means for millions of people.

Banner image: US President Barack Obama speaks during a plenary session today at the Bella Center in Copenhagen on the 12th day of the COP15 UN Climate Change Conference. Photo: Attila Kisbenedek/AFP/Getty Images

Hot, Flat and Crowded

Thomas L. Friedman

Producers:
Sonya Geis
Gary Scott
Karen Radziner

Main Topic After Copenhagen: What's Next for Climate Change? 42 MIN, 46 SEC

In Copenhagen today, President Obama met with other national leaders, then scolded convention delegates for their apparent failure to reach agreement on climate change. Faced with China's rejection of international oversight, he told the conference that if their effort fails, the "same stale arguments" may continue, "while the danger of climate change grows until it is irreversible." So if the conference collapses, what's next?   Will the US Senate pass cap and trade? Will China follow through on its commitment to curb emissions? Will international competition produce "the energy technology that nobody has yet imagined?" We look at the prospects.

Guests:
David Doniger, Natural Resources Defense Council (@NRDC)
Juliet Eilperin, Washington Post (@eilperin)
Stephen Seidel, Vice President for Policy Analysis, Pew Center on Global Climate Change
Evan Osnos, New Yorker magazine (@eosnos)
Keith Johnson, Wall Street Journal

Reporter's Notebook Climate Change and the Prospect for Mass Migration 8 MIN, 13 SEC

Climate change is not just a possibility, it's happening now with potentially catastrophic consequences for millions of people. In the coastal village of Moura in Bangladesh, 30 families agreed at an impromptu meeting that their only hope of survival was to become climate refugees. That's according to John Vidal of Britain's Guardian newspaper, who looked at the impact of climate change from the Himalayas to the Bay of Bengal.

Guests:
John Vidal, Environment Editor, Guardian newspaper

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