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The Secretary of Health and Human Services spent more than three hours before the House Energy and Commerce Committee today, taking the blame for the problems with Healthcare.gov and defending the Affordable Health Care Act. We hear excerpts and arguments about the issues being raised. On Today's Talking Point, George W. Bush started two wars and faced the Great Recession. Was he the one calling the shots? We talk with the author of a new book about the former President and his Vice President, Dick Cheney. 

Banner image: Banner image: Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius testifies before Republicans members of a House Energy and Commerce Committee hearing on the failures of the Affordable Care Act enrollment website on Capitol Hill in Washington, October 30, 2013. Photo: Jason Reed/Reuters

Producers:
Andrea Brody
Anna Scott
Katie Cooper

Main Topic Kathleen Sebelius on the Hot Seat, Obamacare under Fire 41 MIN, 50 SEC

President Obama's Secretary of Health and Human Services was grilled for more than three hours today on Capitol Hill. Kathleen Sebelius apologized to the American people and vowed to solve the problems of Healthcare.gov -- but Republicans were not cutting her any slack. She took responsibility for the "debacle," but said the Affordable Care Act will be good for America. We hear excerpts from the proceedings and look at charges and counter-charges about President Obama and his most-prized achievement. Has he told the whole truth? Are Republicans attacking a plan that's of their own making?

Guests:
Charles Ornstein, ProPublica (@charlesornstein)
Ed O'Keefe, Washington Post (@edatpost)
Yuval Levin, National Affairs magazine (@EPPCDC)
Michael Lind, New America Foundation (@NewAmerica)
Jonathan Cohn, New Republic (@CitizenCohn)

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Jonathan Cohn

Today's Talking Point The Complicated Relationship between Bush and Cheney 9 MIN, 30 SEC

tp131030baker-book.jpgThe relationship between George W. Bush and Dick Cheney was central to a tumultuous time in US history, including two wars, Hurricane Katrina and the Great Recession. Days of Fire: Bush and Cheney in the White House, traces the evolution of that relationship. David Frum, who wrote speeches for Bush, calls the book the best draft of history we'll have "until the archives are opened." Peter Baker, chief White House correspondent for the New York Times, is author of the 800-page work based on hundreds of interviews, including two long and detailed sessions with the former Vice President.

Guests:
Peter Baker, New York Times (@peterbakernyt)

Days of Fire

Peter Baker

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