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It's being called the debate that was lacking in last year's presidential campaign.  We hear the contrasting views of President Obama and former Vice President Cheney in dueling speeches today on national security.  Also, four arrests in the New York conspiracy to use MWD against synagogues and US military aircraft, the National Rifle Association flexes its muscles--on credit card reform.


Banner image: President Obama speaking at the National Archives (L); Former US Vice President Dick Cheney speaking at the American Enterprise Institute. Photo: Saul Loeb/AFP/Getty Images

Law and the Long War

Benjamin Wittes

Producers:
Andrea Brody
Karen Radziner
Christian Bordal

Reporter's Notebook Congress Approves Loaded, Concealed Guns in National Parks 7 MIN, 16 SEC

When the Democrats took over Congress and the White House, the National Rifle Association warned gun owners they were in trouble. But it's not working out that way. For years, the NRA has pushed legislation to allow concealed weapons in national parks. Yesterday, it got what it wanted. The House went along with the Senate on an amendment to legislation reforming the credit card industry. Kate Ackley covers lobbyists for Roll Call, a bi-weekly that covers Capitol Hill.

Guests:
Kate Ackley, Staff Writer, Roll Call

Main Topic Obama and Cheney Address the Politics of National Security 35 MIN, 52 SEC

The President and the former Vice President could hardly disagree more on the right and wrong policies for keeping America safe. In dueling speeches today, they advanced their views and repudiated each other on issues including interrogations, Guantánamo Bay and the Constitution. Speaking at the National Archives, Obama said he'll protect the nation while preserving the rule of law. Cheney spoke at the American Enterprise Institute, where he said critics of tough anti-terrorist measures "distort the truth." We talk to reporters and others about today's quasi-debate. Will it change perceptions of the past? Will it help shape the future?

Guests:
Sheryl Gay Stolberg, New York Times (@sherylstolberg)
Jonathan Landay, McClatchy Newspapers (@JonathanLanday)
John Eastman, National Organization for Marriage (@Chapman_Law)
Jameel Jaffer, Director, ACLU's National Security Project
Benjamin Wittes, Research Director, Brookings Institution

Making News New York Bomb Plot Targets Synagogues, Military Planes 7 MIN, 39 SEC

Four men have been arrested and charged for "conspiracy to use weapons of mass destruction in the United States." They were picked up last night in the Bronx, near New York City. Josh Meyer covers terrorism for the Los Angeles Times.

Guests:
Josh Meyer, Northwestern University (@JoshMeyerDC)

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Jameel Jaffer and Amrit Singh

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