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American values may be compatible with the Christian Bible…but the Founding Fathers insisted on the separation of church and state. Yet many Americans believe they live in a historically "Christian Nation." On this rebroadcast of a conversation we originally broadcast in April, we hear about a long-running campaign to associate religion and politics.

Also, President Obama announces new rules on overtime pay. On today's Talking Point, a six-year-old American citizen who refuses to speak is collateral damage from policies that require her undocumented parents to leave the country. We hear about "American Exiles and Orphans."

Photo: Scott Hudson

Producers:
Jenny Hamel

President Obama Announces New Rules on Overtime Pay 6 MIN, 30 SEC

President Obama first announced new overtime rules in an op-ed in the Huffington Post. Yesterday, he took the message to the University of Wisconsin at LaCrosse.

Jordan Weissman is business and economics reporter for Slate.

Guests:
Jordan Weissmann, Slate.com (@JHWeissmann)

America Is a "Christian Nation" — Since When? 33 MIN, 58 SEC

The Constitution never mentions God, and the Founding Fathers were adamant about the separation of Church and State. The Pledge of Allegiance didn't say "under God" until the 1950's, and that's when the phrase "In God We Trust" showed up on the dollar bill. Those are examples used by Kevin Kruse, a Princeton historian, to support his thesis in the new book, One Nation Under God: How Corporate America Invented Christian America.

So why do so many Americans consider this is a Christian nation? We hear how Big Business used religion to discredit the New Deal, organized labor and government regulation. Socialism was demonized, and God associated with Free Enterprise Capitalism… all the way to the White House. Is that legacy still with us?   

Guests:
Alan Cooperman, Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life (@AlanCooperman)
Kevin Kruse, Princeton University (@KevinMKruse)
Gary Smith, Grove City College
Mary Ellen Sikes, Secular Majority (@SecularCensus)

More:
Smith's 'Religion in the Oval Office: The Religious Lives of American Presidents'
Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life
American Secular Census

One Nation Under God

Kevin M. Kruse

The Collateral Damage of the Immigration Debate 9 MIN, 35 SEC

This may be a "nation of immigrants," but unauthorized immigrants are no longer welcomed as “huddled masses yearning to be free. When their US-born children live in fear that their parents will be deported, they are collateral damage from harsh new policies. The title of a new book says it all: Forgotten Citizens: Deportation, Children and the Making of American Exiles and Orphans. It's about the people getting left out of the long, loud debate about immigration, the children of undocumented immigrants. The author is Luis Zayas, dean of the School of Social Work at the University of Texas, Austin.

Guests:
Luis Zayas, University of Texas at Austin (@deanluishzayas )

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