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Syria is conducting repression of its own people without interference, and, in Libya, Moammar Gadhafi is hanging on longer than expected. Is NATO prepared to protect civilians for humanitarian reasons? What’s the future of the Atlantic Alliance? Also, Pakistan arrests CIA informants, and life expectancy is dropping for American women.

Banner image: Syrian refugees gather on June 15, 2011 during Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu's visit to the Turkish Red Crescent camp in the Yayladagi district of the Turkish city of Hatay, two kilometers from the Syrian border. Photo: Mustafa Ozer/AFP/Getty Images

Producers:
Andrea Brody
Christian Bordal
Sonya Geis

Reporter's Notebook Life Expectancy Lags Across the US 7 MIN, 20 SEC

Life expectancy in the US is not keeping up with the rest of the world. In some parts of the country, both men and women die younger than their counterparts in Syria, Panama and Vietnam. After years of progress, the drop was the biggest since the Spanish flu epidemic of 1918, though there are major differences from region to region. That's according to research by the University of Washington, reported in the journal Population Health Metrics. Noam Levey reports on health policy for the Los Angeles Times.

Guests:
Noam Levey, Los Angeles Times (@NoamLevey )

Making News CIA Informants Arrested by Pakistan 7 MIN, 42 SEC

Pakistan says reports that an Army major has been arrested for helping the CIA watch Osama bin Laden's hiding spot in Abbottabad are "totally baseless." But neighbors say he and several others have disappeared from the neighborhood. Girff Witte, Deputy Foreign Editor for the Washington Post, is in Islamabad.

Guests:
Griff Witte, Washington Post (@griffwitte)

Main Topic Syria, Libya and the Future of NATO 35 MIN, 38 SEC

The government of Syria is using tanks and other weapons to quash dissent by killing its own people. The international community, so far, is standing by. The UN Security Council has not denounced the Syrian regime, and NATO is showing no appetite for intervention. NATO is having a hard time already in Libya, and the US is impatient about being so involved in an action pushed originally by Britain and France. What's happening to the idea of "liberal intervention" on humanitarian grounds? Are US and European interests no longer in sync? What's next for NATO?

Guests:
Anthony Shadid, New York Times (@anthonyshadid)
Robin Yassin-Kassab, Qunfuz.com
Blake Hounshell, Foreign Policy magazine (@blakehounshell)
Stephen Szabo, German Marshall Fund

The Road from Damascus

Robin Yassin-Kassab

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