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Should Bush Administration officials be investigated for war crimes? Barack Obama has been lukewarm toward that idea, but today an Administration insider is saying there was "torture" at Guantánamo Bay. Should somebody be called to account? Where should the buck stop? Also, Egypt struggles to mediate the Gaza conflict, and Barack Obama says he'll go where Bill Clinton feared to tread and let gays and lesbians serve openly in the armed services.


 

Banner image of Camp Delta, Guantánamo Bay: Roberto Schmidt/AFP/Getty Images

 

Producers:
Andrea Brody
Sonya Geis
Katie Cooper

Reporter's Notebook Obama Signals Intention to Reverse 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' 6 MIN, 19 SEC

In 1993, newly elected President Bill Clinton wanted to allow gays and lesbians to serve openly in America's armed services. The outcry against it was so great that he backed off and contrived, “don't ask, don't tell.” During his campaign, Barack Obama said he'd get rid of that policy, but recent statements led to questions about backpedaling.  Not any more. Last Friday, Obama's press secretary gave a one-word answer the question heavy with social and historical baggage. Aubrey Sarvis is director of the Servicemembers Legal Defense Network.

Guests:
Aubrey Sarvis, Director, Servicemembers Legal Defense Network

Making News Egypt Struggles to Mediate Gaza Conflict 5 MIN, 40 SEC

Medical sources in Gaza tell the BBC that more than 1000 Palestinians have now been killed during the Israeli offensive, one third of them children. Five thousand more have been injured. UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon is on his way to Israel, the West Bank, Jordan and Syria after meeting in Cairo with Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak. Michael Slackman is in Cairo for the New York Times.

Guests:
Michael Slackman, Foreign Correspondent, New York Times

Main Topic The Bush Administration and Possible War Crimes 36 MIN, 47 SEC

In September, the conservative Weekly Standard quoted Vice President Cheney as saying, “I think on the left wing of the Democratic Party, there are some people who believe that we really tortured.”  Today Bob Woodward, in the Washington Post, quotes a lifelong Republican, the Pentagon's Inspector General when Cheney was Secretary of Defense, saying that one suspect was tortured and that she assumes others were tortured as well. Susan Crawford is now in charge of deciding if Guantanamo Bay suspects should be brought to trial. Her statements are intensifying the debate on whether Bush Administration officials should be investigated and possibly brought to trial. We speak with attorneys, journalist and scholars about accountability, the rule of law and national security.

Guests:
Dahlia Lithwick, Slate.com (@DahliaLithwick)
Ruth Marcus, Columnist, Washington Post
Bruce Fein, attorney
Frederick Schwarz, Senior Council, New York University's Brennan Center for Justice
John McGinnis, Professor of Law, Northwestern University
Clifford May, President, Foundation for the Defense of Democracies

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