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Apple has an unlikely ally in its battle with the FBI: the former head of both the National Security Agency and the FBI. We hear about "the dark web" and why "back doors" to encryption really matter.

Also, on the program, the reaction to last night's trash-talking encounter between the four remaining candidates for the Republican presidential nomination.

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Producers:
Christine Detz
Jenny Hamel
Evan George

The GOP Civil War Takes Center Stage 22 MIN, 32 SEC

After another round of televised trash talk between presidential candidates, the Republican Party’s in civil war. We hear about the latest efforts to stop the nomination of Donald Trump. 

Guests:
Walter Shapiro, Roll Call / Yale University (@MrWalterShapiro)
Mona Charen, Ethics and Public Policy Institute / National Review Online (@monacharenEPPC)
Pete Hoekstra, House of Representatives (former) (@petehoekstra)

More:
Roll Call on what we learned from Thursday's debate
Roll Call on Republican lawmakers on their nominee
National Review on GOP's implosion after Detroit 'train wreck'

The FBI Wants Apple to Cast Light on 'The Dark Web' 20 MIN

The dispute pitting law enforcement against cyber security is dividing members of Congress — and veterans of US intelligence. FBI Director James Comey went to Capitol Hill this week to explain his demand that Apple provide a so-called "back door" to the iPhone of the San Bernardino terrorist Sayed Farook. One surprising opponent is retired General Michael Hayden, who led the CIA and directed the National Security Agency's wiretaps without warrants. He's now a security consultant in the private sector, and he's siding with Silicon Valley against the FBI. We also hear why so-called "back doors" to encryption are not just an issue of an individual's right to privacy but a real danger to American security.

Guests:
Michael Hayden, CIA / NSA (former) (@GMhayden)
Andy Greenberg, Wired magazine (@a_greenberg)
Adam Schiff, US Congress (D-CA) (@RepAdamSchiff)
Bruce Schneier, Harvard Berkman Center for Internet & Society (@schneierblog)

More:
Greenberg on top iPhone hackers asking court to protect Apple from the FBI
Schneier's 'Beyond Fear: Thinking Sensibly about Security in an Uncertain World'

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