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The FBI and Apple are fighting it out in court over digital privacy and national security, but it's more than a legal dispute. Those are issues with potential effect on almost every American. We hear about the implications of a surprise move by the FBI.

Later on the program, the Arab Spring produce functioning democracy in only one country: Tunisia. So, why has it become the prime source of young jihadists who want to join ISIS? 

Producers:
Jenny Hamel
Andrea Brody
Paul von Zielbauer

Radovan Karadzic Sentenced to 40 Years for Genocide 6 MIN, 13 SEC

After a trial lasting five years, an international criminal tribunal today convicted former Bosnian Serb leader Radovan Karadzic of genocide, war crimes and crimes against humanity. The atrocities date back to the 1990's, when 8000 Bosnian Muslims were slaughtered at Srebrenica and Sarajevo, which were under siege for four years. Historian Bob Donia, author of, Rodavan Karaedzic: Architect of the Bosnian Genocide, testified before the tribunal.

Guests:
Robert Donia, historian and author

Radovan Karadžič

Robert J. Donia

The FBI Assault on Apple: Was This Necessary? 33 MIN, 46 SEC

The FBI created a firestorm over digital privacy by taking Apple to court and demanding access to the iPhone of a terrorist killed in San Bernardino. Now the Bureau says, "Never mind" -- at least for the moment. It turns out that somebody else may have figured a way to break Apple's encryption. That's raising a host of questions. Doesn't the FBI have its own hackers? Is Apple's vaunted security all it's cracked up to be? Should a private company become a surveillance arm of the government in the interests of national security? We hear a variety of answers.

Guests:
Katie Benner, New York Times (@ktbenner)
Esha Bhandari, ACLU (@bhandari_esha)
Michael S. Smith, Kronos Advisory (@MichaelSSmithII)
Susan Landau, Worcester Polytechnic Institute

More:
Brenner on why hackers might help FBI and not Apple
ACLU on the Apple fight, technology and privacy
NPR on why digital security is an 'arms race' between firms and the feds

The Underside of Tunisia's Jasmine Revolution 9 MIN, 46 SEC

There is no shortage of young recruits for al-Qaeda and ISIS, and one country produces more Islamic jihadists than any other.


Photo: khaled abdelmoumen

Tunisia was led by secular despots until the so-called Jasmine Revolution that started the Arab Spring. It's the only country that came out of that upheaval with a functioning democracy. But there's a paradox. Tunisia has become the leading source of young Islamic jihadists who are joining al Qaeda and ISIS. That's according to George Packer in the latest New Yorker magazine.

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