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Pope Francis continues to shake up the Vatican — and the rest of the Roman Catholic world. We hear how the Pope from Argentina is shifting church power from Europe and the US to poor nations in the under-developed world.

Also, twelve people are dead in a terror attack on the French magazine Charlie Hebdo. On today's Talking Point, an accused CIA leaker's about to go on trial, but New York Times reporter James Risen says he still won't answer questions about the source of his book about CIA bungling. We get an update.

Photo: Jeffrey Bruno

Producers:
Benjamin Gottlieb
Gideon Brower
Claire Martin

Twelve Dead in Terror Attack on French Magazine 6 MIN, 30 SEC

In today's attack on the French satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo, masked gunmen shot 12 people dead, including editors and cartoonists who've drawn pictures of the Prophet Mohammed and two policeman. Others were shot as well. At least two killers are still on the loose, and the City of Paris is under the highest level of terrorist alert.  Dominique Moïsi is senior advisor to the French Institute of International Relations in Paris.

Guests:
Dominique Moisi, French Institute of International Relations (@IFRI_)

More:
Michel Houellebecq's "Submission"
NPR on cartoonists showing solidarity with 'Charlie Hebdo'

Pope Francis and Catholic Culture Shock 35 MIN

The first modern Pope from outside Europe is much more than the world celebrity he's become since arriving in Rome from Argentina in 2013.  One biographer says he's not just a man, but a movement leader -- focused on shifting the cutting edge of Roman Catholic power. He's chosen new cardinals from Myanmar, Cape Verde and Tonga — not Milan, Madrid or Los Angeles — and he's publicly scolded the Vatican establishment. His focus on poverty has Rush Limbaugh labeling him a "Communist." What will it mean for Catholics in Europe, the US, and the developing world? 

Guests:
Josephine McKenna, Religion News Service (@JosephineMcK)
Austen Ivereigh, Catholic Voices (@austeni)
James Heft, USC Institute for Advanced Catholic Studies (@IACSatUSC)
Bob Jaeger, Partners for Sacred Places (@sacred_places)

More:
McKenna on assessing Pope Francis' vision for the Vatican through his new cardinals
Ivereigh on the choice of new cardinals reflecting Francis thinking on reform
Institute for Advanced Catholic Studies on a church in need of its people

The Great Reformer

Austen Ivereigh

Preview of CIA Whistleblower Trial 8 MIN, 18 SEC

For seven years, Attorney General Eric Holder has been trying to force New York Times reporter James Risen to reveal what he learned from CIA officer Jeffrey Sterling.  Next week, Sterling will go on trial for leaking classified information that he revealed government secrets to James Risen for the book, State of War, which was published nine years ago — but Risen still isn't talking. Sterling says he's being selectively prosecuted for things other CIA agents have also done.  Marcy Wheeler, who writes about national security and civil liberties for Foreign Policy, the Guardian, and the website Expose Facts.com, has the details.

Guests:
Marcy Wheeler, independent journalist (@emptywheel)

State of War

James Risen

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