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This time it's all 28 separate districts in Orange County, where County Supervisors plan to take $73 million in school money to balance their budget and pay bills. But the school superintendent says, not "on the backs of the children." We hear from both sides and from the Governor's office, which says the Supervisors may be about to break state law. Also, LA County officials are saying, "stay home." We update the ongoing damage from high winds. On our rebroadcast of today's To the Point, climate change and low expectations.

Producers:
Christian Bordal
Sonya Geis
Anna Scott

Main Topic Yet Another School System in Big Trouble 19 MIN, 9 SEC

Education in California is likely to be hit hard if revenues don't measure up to the optimistic projections made in Sacramento when this year's budget was passed. In the meantime, Orange County Supervisors plan to use school money for purposes of their own. To balance the County budget and pay their bills, they plan to divert $73.5 million in property taxes earmarked for K-12 education. School Superintendent William Habermehl says he won't allow that to happen "on the backs of the children."

Guests:
Bill Habermehl, Orange County Department of Education
Shawn Nelson, Orange County Board of Supervisors
H.D. Palmer, California State Department of Finance (@HDatFinance)

Main Topic Future Hazy as Climate Talks Continue 25 MIN, 37 SEC

The UN's Conference of Parties on Climate Change has been meeting for 17 years. In 1997, it produced the Kyoto Protocol, supposedly to hold industrial nations accountable for the impact of greenhouse emissions. But two years ago in Copenhagen, heads of state, including President Obama, could only produce a two-page, nonbinding agreement to help poor nations cope with climate change, and details are still being debated. The Kyoto pact will expire at the end of next year. This week, 195 countries are attending the latest so-called Earth Summit in Durban, South Africa. Will they save the Kyoto Protocol or allow it to expire even as the impacts of climate change are being felt all over the world?

Guests:
Fiona Harvey, The Guardian (@fionaharvey)
Jennifer Morgan, World Resources Institute (@climatemorgan)
Bjorn Lomborg, Copenhagen Consensus Center (@bjornlomborg)
Bill McKibben, environmentalist and author (@billmckibben)

The End of Nature

Bill McKibben

Making News Powerful Santa Anas Cause Mayhem 7 MIN, 41 SEC

Los Angeles County officials are saying that the Santa Ana windstorm is a 36-hour event. That means we've got until at least noon tomorrow before it dies down.  Countywide, hundreds of trees are down, at least 340,000 homes have been without power and there may be more to come, along with broken traffic lights that snarl traffic. The worst damage so far is in the San Gabriel Valley where Frank Girardot is gathering information. The Editor of the Pasadena Star-News joins us on a cell phone because the power is out at the paper.

Guests:
Frank Girardot, Pasadena Star-News (@frankgirardot)

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