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Director Allen Hughes tells us how he got Jimmy Iovine and Dr. Dre to participate in his massive HBO documentary project The Defiant Ones -- along with everyone else in the music industry -- from Bruce Springsteen to Ice Cube to the interview-averse Patti Smith. Hughes also talks about how this series led to an emotional revelation of his own -- finally processing the deaths of hip hop icons Tupac Shakur and Eazy-E.

Photo: Filmmaker Allen Hughes (HBO)

Hollywood news banter 5 MIN, 3 SEC

Matt Belloni, editorial director of the Hollywood Reporter, joins Kim Masters to discuss top entertainment news stories of the week.

  • There's an ongoing war between President Donald Trump and CNN. Most recently, the president tweeted a GIF of himself tackling the network, and the network fought back. Trump's fans love the anti-media sentiment, but what's the impact on the security of journalists?
  • Sources in the White House have floated the idea that the merger between AT&T and Time Warner could be impeded because of the presidents dislike for CNN. However, Time Warner has said that the company could potentially divest assets if it helps with the deal.
  • The two Asian stars of CBS's Hawaii Five-O are leaving the show, because they did not get equal pay to the white stars on the show. This is bad optics for CBS, which has already been under scrutiny for lacking diversity.

Matthew Belloni, Hollywood Reporter (@THRMattBelloni)

Director Allen Hughes on 'The Defiant Ones' 21 MIN, 54 SEC

The new four-part documentary series The Defiant Ones on HBO traces the rise of music titans Jimmy Iovine and Dr. Dre, from their childhoods, respectively in Brooklyn and Compton, to their partnership in founding the headphone company Beats Electronics -- which Apple bought in 2014 for $3 billion.

The Defiant Ones is massive -- both in terms of the ground it covers and the sheer volume of interviews with musical luminaries who have worked with Dr. Dre and Iovine over the years.

Iovine started as an audio engineer in Manhattan, and got a big break when he was hired to work on the 1975 Bruce Springsteen album Born to Run

A decade later, Dr. Dre was starting out as a DJ in Compton clubs.

By the time the two met in 1992, Iovine had become a major music producer, and had founded Interscope Records.

Dre, meanwhile, had established himself with NWA, but things had gone sour and he was mired in legal troubles stemming from his departure from the group. And he was having problems finding a distributor for his first solo album, The Chronic. But when Iovine first heard the album, he was floored, and an unlikely partnership was born.

The filmmaker who directed all four installments of The Defiant Ones is our guest Allen Hughes.

For many years, Hughes directed movies with his twin brother Albert, starting with Menace II Society. They went on to direct Dead Presidents, From Hell and The Book of Eli before they began to pursue solo careers.

Allen Hughes tells us about getting into feature films via music videos at a young age, his complicated friendship with Tupac Shakur, and the origin story of The Defiant Ones.

Allen Hughes, filmmaker and director (@Hughes2Society)


Kim Masters

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