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Bun cha with Obama, and Trump's new world disorder

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Anthony Bourdain tells David Remnick about the adventurous life he has led since his essay in the New Yorker launched him as a new kind of hard-boiled celebrity chef. Reporter Robin Wright talks to two veteran officials of intelligence and diplomacy about where Donald Trump's foreign policy by tweet may lead us. And fiction writer Yiyun Li takes in the view at Oakland's premier cemetery.

Illustration by Rebecca Mock

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Host:
David Remnick