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If the drug kingpin known as El Chapo is brought to trial in the U.S., he might face two formidable witnesses: identical twin brothers, former drug traffickers on a major scale, who gathered evidence against him for government prosecutors. Jack Handey tells some “Tales of Old Santa Fe,” where the cowboy past collides with the New Age present. And David Remnick talks with Alicia Garza, a co-founder of Black Lives Matter, about her movement’s goals and her issues with Hillary Clinton.

Illustration: Daniel Zender

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