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David Frum is a card-carrying conservative who won't jump on the GOP's Trump bandwagon — he believes that America's fundamental rights will be at risk under the President-elect. The novelist Zadie Smith explains why she thought writing in the first person was an indulgence. And the much-derided can of cranberry sauce finally speaks up for itself — and, boy, is it pissed.

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