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Jerry Brown promised his third term as Governor would be the charm against a budget crisis that never seems to end. Eighteen months later, the deficit is twice as big as he predicted, and he says the state needs to stop living beyond its means. That means asking the voters to raise taxes. Will they go along? Why hasn’t he launched a real campaign? We talk with the only reporter to get a lengthy interview with a Governor who’s been shying away from public appearances.  Also, 150 judges from nine western states will hold their annual conference in Hawaii. Wouldn’t you? Two Republican Senators say, No Way!  On our rebroadcast of today's To the Point, leaks, national security and presidential politics.

Banner image: Jerry Brown, seen above attending an election rally in Sacramento two days before his 2010 election, vowed to solve California's perpetual budget crisis. Photo by Mark Miller

Making News Rampture: 405 Traffic Madness Starts This Weekend 5 MIN, 38 SEC

"Starting on Friday, the Westside of Los Angeles will never be the same." That's according to Kajon Cermak, KCRW's resident traffic expert and blogger at Short Cuts. She says, it's going to be "hell."

Kajon Cermak, Board Operator & Traffic Queen, All Things Considered (@KajonKCRW)

Main Topic Does Jerry Brown Have Any Answers? 16 MIN, 15 SEC

Twenty-eight years after his first two terms as Governor, Jerry Brown ran again, promising that experience and the wisdom that comes with age would allow him to solve California's perpetual funding crisis. A year and a half later, "Uncle Jerry's got the kids in the car and he's not bringing them back without ransom." That's according to Joe Mathews with the New America Foundation writing in The Daily Beast. We hear from him and from Marc Cooper, who scored a rare lengthy interview with the Governor.

Joe Mathews, Host, "Zocalo's Connecting California" (@joemmathews)
Marc Cooper, University of Southern California (@marc_cooper)

California Crackup

Joe Mathews

Reporter's Notebook Federal Judges Under Fire for Conference in Maui 4 MIN, 25 SEC

One hundred fifty judges from the 9th Federal Circuit Court of Appeals are headed for Maui in August to hold a conference on the administration of justice.  Republican US Senators Jeff Sessions of Alabama and Charles Grassley of Iowa are up in arms, as we hear from Mike Zapler, Deputy Congressional Editor for Politico.

Mike Zapler, Reporter for the San Jose Mercury News (@mikezapler)

Main Topic A Cascade of Secret Intelligence Leaks 25 MIN, 15 SEC

167x120 image for tp120620a_cascade_of_secret_Reporters for Newsweek, the Daily Beast and the New York Times have recently revealed that President Obama chooses the "kill lists" for unmanned drones and that the US conspired with Israel to disable Iran's nuclear program with the Stuxnet computer virus. Has the Obama White House leaked too much classified information to enhance his re-election campaign?  Are leaks threatening national security? Does the public have a right to know?

Ed Luce, Financial Times (@EdwardGLuce)
P.J. Crowley, George Washington University (@PJCrowley)
Frank LoBiondo, House of Representatives (R-NJ) (@RepLoBiondo)
Daniel Klaidman, Newsweek/Daily Beast (@dklaidman)

Kill or Capture

Daniel Klaidman

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