If you picked up a hard copy of the Los Angeles Times on Sunday, you may have noticed something unusual in the banner of the paper -- the place that says "Los Angeles Times" in Gothic type font. There were some visitors to that area of the front page: the characters from the new movie Minions, which is a part of the animated Despicable Me franchise. That created quite the discussion. Kevin Roderick, editor of LA Observed, is a former LA Times reporter. He speaks with KCRW's Steve Chiotakis about journalism and that editorial wall that separates it from advertising.