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Ava DuVernay's Oscar-nominated documentary 13th traces the history of racism and mass incarceration in America. Because she made the film for Netflix, she had to forego seeing it on the big screen. And she's okay with that. DuVernay tells us why -- following her Oscar nomination for Selma -- she turned down an offer from Marvel to make a doc for Netflix. She also explains how she managed to make 13th while also overseeing Queen Sugar on the Oprah Winfrey Network and directing Disney's big budget A Wrinkle in Time.

Hollywood news banter 5 MIN, 56 SEC

Matt Belloni, editorial director of the Hollywood Reporter, joins Kim Masters to discuss top entertainment news stories of the week.

  • Viacom's newest strategy involves focusing on their six strongest brands (MTV, Nickelodeon, Nick Jr., Comedy Central, BET and Paramount) and integrating more of their cable properties into Paramount movies. This seems to be a Disney-esque approach -- having multiple silos like Pixar, Lucasfilm, etc. Except in Disney's case, their properties are currently much, much stronger than Viacom's.
  • As Hollywood continues to grapple with Trump, several big talent agencies are taking a stand. The biggest move so far has come from UTA, which announced it will forego its annual Oscar Party and instead give $250,000 to the ACLU, as well as hold a pro-immigration rally a few days before the Oscars. WME-IMG has announced they will form a PAC related to protecting diversity, but its exact purpose is still unclear. That agency is in a trickier situation because Ari Emanuel used to be Trump's agent and they represent a broader range of clients, some of whom may not be as liberal as the rest of Hollywood.

Guests:
Matthew Belloni, Hollywood Reporter (@THRMattBelloni)

Ava DuVernay: 13th 21 MIN, 10 SEC

How busy is director Ava DuVernay? Really, really busy. So busy that the only time she could sit down for our interview was a Saturday afternoon. And the night before, she had been shooting Disney's A Wrinkle in Time until midnight.

She's also the executive producer of the TV series Queen Sugar, which starts its second season on the Oprah Winfrey Network later this year.

Plus, DuVernay's on the awards circuit. Her film 13th is in the Oscar race for best documentary feature, making her the first African American woman nominated in that category.

13th refers to the constitutional amendment that abolished slavery in America, except as punishment for a crime.

Through archival footage and talking heads, the film reveals how this loophole has been exploited to oppress African Americans, since the days immediately following emancipation, through the law and order presidencies of the 70s and 80s, where the racism was expressed in rhetorical code, but the consequences were very real.

13th also examines the growth of the private prison industry and the exploitation of inmate labor to make everything from missile parts to blue jeans.

The film made history last September when it became the first documentary to open the New York Film Festival. A few days later it appeared on Netflix. Until then, DuVernay had kept the project off the radar. She tells us why she kept it quiet, and how the film is resonating now, post-election.

DuVernay also talks about why it doesn't bother her not to have a theatrical release, why she made such an effort to include conservative voices in 13th, and about the how the death of her father last year drove her to take on two films and a television series at the same time.

Guests:
Ava DuVernay, Sundance Award-winning filmmaker (@AVAETC)

CREDITS

Host:
Kim Masters

Producers:
Kaitlin Parker

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