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President Obama today denounced Donald Trump as "vulgar and divisive." He's hardly the poster child for Christian values. But exit polls and surveys show him leading other Republicans with evangelical voters — and some of their leaders — who could play a decisive role in this year's road to the White House.

Later on the program, Jeffrey Goldberg has spent more time with President Obama than any other reporter. We get a window into the "Obama Doctrine." 

Photo: Screenshot from Donald Trump video on Christian Values (Donald Trump/Facebook)

Producers:
Katie Cooper
Christine Detz
Jenny Hamel

US Eases More Cuba Travel Restrictions 6 MIN, 12 SEC

President Obama is scheduled to visit Cuba next week, and today the Treasury Department eased restrictions on travel to Cuba for other Americans. Karen DeYoung is associate editor and senior national security correspondent for the Washington Post.

Guests:
Karen DeYoung, Washington Post (@karendeyoung1)

What's Happening to "Value Voters?" 33 MIN, 27 SEC

One leader of the Southern Baptist Convention says that to back Donald Trump, Christian “voters must repudiate everything they believe,” but polls show millions of evangelicals are not demanding that Trump adhere to precepts of the once-dominating Moral Majority. They're supporting a profanity-spouting gambling-house owner who's been married three times with an inconsistent history on abortion and same-sex marriage. Cruz, Rubio and Kasich are passing the litmus tests, so why is Trump leading with voters who call themselves devout Christians?

Guests:
Russell Moore, Southern Baptist Convention (@drmoore)
Robert Jeffress, First Baptist Dallas (@robertjeffress)
David Kinnaman, Barna Group (@davidkinnaman)
Sarah Posner, Religion Dispatches (@sarahposner)
Jim Wallis, Sojourners (@JimWallis)

More:
Moore's 'Onward: Engaging the Culture without Losing the Gospel'
Moore on why Christians should vote third-party rather than 'lesser of evils'
Kinnaman's 'Good Faith: Being a Christian When Society Thinks You're Irrelevant and Extreme'
Barna Group on America's faith segments being divided on the presidential race
Posner on 'Trumpvangelicals' as the new evangelicals
Wallis' 'America's Original Sin: Racism, White Privilege, and the Bridge to a New America'

God's Profits

Sarah Posner

The Obama Doctrine: Fear and Force 9 MIN, 56 SEC

Since before he took office, President Obama has spoken to one reporter more than any other — focused especially on foreign policy. We hear about the "Obama Doctrine" from Jeffrey Goldberg of the Atlantic.

(We'll have more of the conversation tomorrow, including how the legacy of George W. Bush helped shape Obama's "long view.")

Guests:
Jeffrey Goldberg, Atlantic (@JeffreyGoldberg)

The Obama Doctrine, Part II 9 MIN, 39 SEC

Part II of Warren's interview with Jeffrey Goldberg. The national correspondent for the Atlantic has spent more time talking foreign policy with President Obama than any other journalist. The result is his cover story "The Obama Doctrine." In it, he writes that "what will be controversial for years to come is the standard Obama has used to define what constitutes a direct threat to the Unites States."

Guests:
Jeffrey Goldberg, Atlantic (@JeffreyGoldberg)

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