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Here Be Monsters

HBM139: Acceptable Pains

Is volunteering for pain an unnecessary cruelty? Or is it a fundamental part of being human?

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By Jeff Emtman • Jun 10, 2020 • 16m Listen

Hedonism seems pretty appealing right now—seeking pleasure and avoiding pain. On HBM137: Superhappiness, the hedonist philosopher, David Pearce imagined a future free of the systemic harms we currently experience: poverty, oppression, violence, and disease.

But David thinks that even an idyllic, egalitarian society wouldn’t ensure universal happiness. He thinks that the only way to make everyone blissfully happy is to use technology and genetic engineering to make physical and emotional pain obsolete

HBM producer Bethany Denton doesn’t fully agree. She thinks that heartbreak, homesickness, grief can all be good pain, pains that can make us better and kinder people in the long run. So what should the role of pain be in society? And further, what about the pains that we opt into, the pains we volunteer for? On this episode of Here Be Monsters, Bethany interviews people about long distance running, unmedicated childbirth, and voluntary crucifixion in the Philippines.

Will James is a reporter for KNKX Public Radio. Ashlynn Owen-Kachikis is a special education teacher. Carlo Nakar is a social worker and recurringguest on HBM.

Music: The Black Spot, Flowers, Olecranon Rebellion

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    Jeff Emtman

    Independent Producer

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    Bethany Denton

    Managing Editor of 'Here Be Monsters'

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    Jeff Emtman

    Independent Producer

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    Bethany Denton

    Managing Editor of 'Here Be Monsters'

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