Kurt Andersen talks music and politics with songwriter Randy Newman. Newman performs songs off his new record Harps & Angels and explains why he wrote "A Few Words in Defense of Our Country," whose lyrics appeared as a New York Times Op-Ed. Then, Kurt asks cartoonist and illustrator Kyle Baker about his new graphic historic novel, Nat Turner, a powerful -- yet nearly wordless-- depiction of the 1831 slave rebellion in Virginia.
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