Showrunners Ilene Chaiken and Michelle Ashford

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Fox's hit series Empire has just resumed its second season with a ratings bang. That means Taraji P. Henson and Terrence Howard are back as Cookie and Lucious Lyon, now trying to regain control of their record label.

We're bringing you a conversation with two showrunners -- Ilene Chaiken of Empire and Michelle Ashford, creator of Showtime's Masters of Sex. The two sat down to talk about their different paths to success, how they deal with the daily pressures of putting out strong shows, and the state of diversity in television with Michael Schneider at this year's meeting of the National Association of Television Program Executives.

Credits

Guests:
Ilene Chaiken - television producer, director and writer - @ilenechaiken, Michelle Ashford - writer and producer

Host:
Kim Masters

Producer:
Kaitlin Parker