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    Press Play with Madeleine Brand

    Veteran journalist Erin Aubry Kaplan on diversity and priorities in the media

    KCRW talks about diversifying newsrooms with Erin Aubry Kaplan. She’s an opinion writer for The New York Times. She was the first regular Black op-ed columnist for the LA Times.

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    By Madeleine Brand • Jun 16, 2020 • 1 min read

    KCRW talks about diversifying newsrooms with Erin Aubry Kaplan. She’s an opinion writer for The New York Times. She was the first regular Black op-ed columnist for the LA Times. Her book is titled “Black Talk, Blue Thoughts and Walking the Color Line: Dispatches From a Black Journalista.”

    “Even when things were going ‘well,’ there wasn’t enough representation. There was a moment, maybe. But it never lasts. And that’s the problem. None of this gets institutionalized,” she says.

    How to change things? Change priorities, she says. “I think if you change priorities, then suddenly, you find the budget. And suddenly, things get done. It has to be a commitment and priority from the top.”

    What if you have an African American person at the top? Kaplan says, “If you’re Black and at the top, there’s more pressure for younot to do anything. Because people feel like, ‘Oh, look, we have a Black editor. We have a Black president. We have a Black whatever.’ And that’s all the progress people assume you need. But of course, that’s only the beginning. It’s great to have someone like that in that kind of position. But it blinds people to the reality of what’s going on because you’re so dazzled by the symbolism that it kind of stops there,” she says.

    The full episode

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    Making newsrooms more diverse
    1. 0:00Why it’s difficult for the LA Times to hire, retain, and promote people of color
    2. 7:42Veteran journalist Erin Aubry Kaplan on diversity and priorities in the mediaYou’re reading this
    3. 17:52Police budgets are squeezing out funding for other essential state and city services
    4. 26:20Face shields, paper menus, temperature checks: Inside reopened LA restaurants
    5. 35:45How COVID-19 affects the way people watch TV
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      Madeleine Brand

      Host, 'Press Play'

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      Sarah Sweeney

      Vice President of Talk Programming, KCRW

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      Michell Eloy

      Former Producer/Line Editor, Press Play

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      Rosalie Atkinson

      Associate producer

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      Erin Aubry Kaplan

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      CultureLos Angeles

    The full episode

    2 of 5
    Making newsrooms more diverse
    1. 0:00Why it’s difficult for the LA Times to hire, retain, and promote people of color
    2. 7:42Veteran journalist Erin Aubry Kaplan on diversity and priorities in the mediaYou’re reading this
    3. 17:52Police budgets are squeezing out funding for other essential state and city services
    4. 26:20Face shields, paper menus, temperature checks: Inside reopened LA restaurants
    5. 35:45How COVID-19 affects the way people watch TV
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