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    Press Play with Madeleine Brand

    Why is gossip a dirty word, even though we all do it?

    Kelsey McKinney hosted the podcast “Normal Gossip” for two years, spilling the tea with guests and dramatizing certain details. Her lessons about gossip are now published in a new book, which combines research, personal essays, and memoir.

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    By Madeleine Brand • Feb 19, 2025 • 1 min read

    Kelsey McKinney hosted the podcast “Normal Gossip” for two years, spilling the tea with guests and dramatizing certain details. Her lessons about gossip are now published in a new book, which combines research, personal essays, and memoir.

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    Trump’s freeze on foreign aid, meaning of home from Angeleno who lost it
    1. 0:00Trump, Zelensky trade barbs as peace talks get underway (without Ukraine)
    2. 9:46USAID programs fighting to justify their existence to Trump
    3. 21:51Meaning of home and community: Lessons from Eaton Fire survivor
    4. 34:29Why is gossip a dirty word, even though we all do it?You’re reading this
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      Madeleine Brand

      Host, 'Press Play'

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      Vice President of Talk Programming, KCRW

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      Kelsey McKinney

      former host of the podcast “Normal Gossip,” author of “You Didn’t Hear This From Me: Mostly True Notes on Gossip”

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    The full episode

    4 of 4
    Trump’s freeze on foreign aid, meaning of home from Angeleno who lost it
    1. 0:00Trump, Zelensky trade barbs as peace talks get underway (without Ukraine)
    2. 9:46USAID programs fighting to justify their existence to Trump
    3. 21:51Meaning of home and community: Lessons from Eaton Fire survivor
    4. 34:29Why is gossip a dirty word, even though we all do it?You’re reading this
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