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    Press Play with Madeleine Brand

    The Masterminds of the C.I.A.’s Brutal Tactics

    We take a deeper look at where the C.I.A.’s enhanced interrogation methods came from, and specifically the two psychologists who pushed for them. Their code names were Grayson Swigert and Hammond Dunbar. They were paid more than $80 million by the C.I.A. during their time as contractors with the agency.

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    By Madeleine Brand • Dec 10, 2014 • 1 min read

    We take a deeper look at where the C.I.A.’s enhanced interrogation methods came from, and specifically the two psychologists who pushed for them. Their code names were Grayson Swigert and Hammond Dunbar. They were paid more than $80 million by the C.I.A. during their time as contractors with the agency. Who are they really, and how did they get that contract?

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      Madeleine Brand

      Host, 'Press Play'

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      Andrew Walsh

      Too Beautiful to Live

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      Christian Bordal

      Managing Producer, Greater LA

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      Matt Holzman

      Producer, 'The Document'

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      Scott Shane

      New York Times

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    The full episode

    2 of 5
    The Cost of "Enhanced Interrogation," and LAUSD vs Antibiotic Chickens
    1. 0:00The Cost of “Enhanced Interrogation”
    2. 8:49The Masterminds of the C.I.A.’s Brutal TacticsYou’re reading this
    3. 17:55LAUSD to Ban Chickens Raised with Antibiotics
    4. 25:04Bodies at the Border
    5. 39:20Journalism v. Trolling With “Reply All”
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