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    The Wars of the Future and the Wars of the Past

    Defense Secretary Gates says cutting the F-22 jet fighter was "not even a close call,” but the project provides jobs in no less than 44 of the 50 states. We hear about upcoming battles over a defense budget that reorients the Pentagon from conventional warfare to counterinsurgency.  Also, President Obama greeted warmly in Iraq, and Vermont becomes the fourth state to recognize same-sex marriage.

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    By Warren Olney • Apr 7, 2009 • 1h 0m Listen

    Defense Secretary Gates says cutting the F-22 jet fighter was "not even a close call,” but the project provides jobs in no less than 44 of the 50 states. We hear about upcoming battles over a defense budget that reorients the Pentagon from conventional warfare to counterinsurgency. Also, President Obama is in Iraq, where he's greeted warmly by US troops, and Vermont is the fourth state to legalize same-sex marriage, and the first to do so with a vote by the legislature.


    Banner image of F-22: John Possino/Lockheed Martin

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