Gary Johnson, Angel Olsen, and a bee stylist

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Gary Johnson, the Libertarian Presidential candidate, was once a staunch advocate for legalizing marijuana. The former New Mexico governor joins David Remnick in a discussion about his new pot-free life, Social Security reform, and whether school teachers should have semiautomatic rifles in the classroom. Plus, singer-songwriter Angel Olsen and Kelefa Sanneh listen to a track from Olsen's latest album, My Woman; a curator at the American Museum of Natural History spiffs up a dead bee; actor Reed Birney reads Donald Barthelme's classic short story "The School;" and Joshua Rothman investigates our obsession with travelling to Mars.

Illustration by Ping Zhu

Credits

Host:
David Remnick