Conspiracy, Not the Crime

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This is the first person account of a fugitive. He knew he was in trouble – big trouble. So he ran – for 31 years. Until finally, he realized, he didn’t want to run anymore.

NOTE: Our subject and his family have asked that their names not be revealed, and so we've honored that request.

The story was produced by Max Miller in collaboration with Los Angeles podcast ARRVLS, produced by Jonathan Hirsch, who also composed original music for this episode.

Illustration by Steph Tan



Bob Carlson


Bob Carlson