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    Life Examined

    The simple wisdom of doing nothing

    Jonathan Bastian talks with Josh Cohen, a psychoanalyst and professor of modern literary theory at Goldsmiths, about the cultivation of healthy aimlessness.

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    By Jonathan Bastian • Dec 23, 2021 • 44m Listen

    For those of us who love and need work, doing nothing seems like anathema. Though appealing in principle, vegging out on the couch or daydreaming out the window isn’t as easy as it should be. Our culture demonizes idleness, and not being (what we perceive to be) productive prompts feelings of laziness and guilt.

    For many of us, life over the last year of the pandemic has also become a lot busier. In addition to getting back into work, we’re doing more, traveling, and visiting friends — back to the familiar rituals of being on the go. We’re happy to be out and about, but do we lose something when busyness seeps back into our lives?

    In his new book, “Not Working: Why We Have to Stop,” psychoanalyst and professor of modern literary theory at Goldsmiths Josh Cohen explores the question of how we live without work. He describes the feelings of patients with burnout and other work-related conditions, and says “the desire for non-desire” is part of human nature.

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