What is the deep state?

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In this divided country, it’s no surprise that “deep state” means different things to different people. Rush Limbaugh and others on the far-right see an entrenched bureaucracy planting leaks to the media to undermine President Trump. In his book, Deep State: the Fall of the Constitution and the Rise of Shadow Government, Michael Lofgren describes a history of private interests in control of public institutions. It's Ike's "military-industrial complex" on steroids, with players including Wall Street and Silicon Valley, enhancing their profits at the expense of public service.

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Credits

Guests:
Mike Lofgren - Author / Former Congressional Staffer, Jon Michaels - Professor of Law at UCLA - @JonDMichaels

Host:
Warren Olney

Producers:
Andrea Brody, Devan Schwartz