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    Back to Press Play with Madeleine Brand

    Press Play with Madeleine Brand

    Former inmates can become firefighters more easily, thanks to new bill on Gov. Newsom’s desk

    The state legislature passed a bill that would allow people who’ve completed one of the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation’s fire camps to petition a judge to expunge their records and waive parole time.

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    By Madeleine Brand • Sep 1, 2020 • 6m Listen

    The state legislature passed a bill that would allow people who’ve completed one of the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation’s fire camps to petition a judge to expunge their records and waive parole time. They could then apply to become full-time firefighters when released. However, people convicted of certain violent felonies and sex crimes would remain ineligible. The bill is now waiting for Gov. Gavin Newsom’s signature.

    Michael Thomas stands to benefit from this bill. He served time for armed robbery and became a firefighter while in prison. After he was released, he couldn’t apply for a job at a firehouse, so he focused on photography and waited for an opportunity to present itself.

    He tells Press Play his reaction to the bill’s passage: “That’s good news not just for me, but just for anybody else who had high hopes of getting the opportunity to become a firefighter upon getting released from prison.”

    He shares his experience with some recent fires: “We had problems seeing and breathing because it was [sic] so much smoke and fire. It was some difficult ones [sic] that you gotta be mental strong. … It was a lot of wear and tear.”

    He says his living conditions were horrible when he wasn’t directly trying to extinguish flames. “We might only eat one time, and we’re out on the fire all day, and all we get is maybe a peanut butter and jelly sandwich.”

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      Host, 'Press Play'

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      Michael Thomas

      formerly incarcerated man and participant in the Cuesta Fire Camp in San Luis Obispo

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    The full episode

    2 of 5
    Renter protections, police reform: What the California legislature approved
    1. 0:00Renter protections, police reform: Which bills passed during the California legislative session?
    2. 10:09Former inmates can become firefighters more easily, thanks to new bill on Gov. Newsom’s deskYou’re reading this
    3. 16:30How one state assemblywoman is trying to help constituents get unemployment benefits
    4. 26:16Monterey Bay Aquarium has been closed for months. What does that mean for research and animals?
    5. 34:17‘Lovecraft Country’ mixes sci-fi horror with real white supremacist horror
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