Dozens of Civilians Killed in Ukraine While Diplomacy Continues

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The Foreign Ministers of Ukraine, Russia, France and Germany met for 5 hours yesterday in Berlin with the goal of “making steps toward a ceasefire possible.” Their conclusion was that “things can get even worse.”
Credits

Guests:
Anton Troianovski - Wall Street Journal - @AntonWSJ, Charles Kupchan - Council on Foreign Relations / Georgetown University - @CFR_org, Matthew Rojansky - Wilson Center - @MatthewRojansky, Kurt Volker - McCain Institute for International Leadership - @kvolker

Host:
Warren Olney

Producers:
Jenny Hamel, Mike Kessler, Claire Martin