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In his lengthy encyclical on climate change, Pope Francis denounced the cap-and-trade system that allows companies to go on polluting as long as they pay for it. Was he talking about California? Cap-and-trade is the very heart of AB 32, the state's pioneering law for reducing greenhouse gases. Defenders say regulations make it effective and that it's the best we can hope for. Critics agree with the Pope. We hear both sides.

Also, should California dump the bear flag?

Photo: Ryan Lim

Producers:
Katie Cooper
Sarah Sweeney

Can Cap-and-Trade Survive a Papal Denunciation? 17 MIN, 14 SEC

A papal encyclical is the highest form of teaching from one of the world's most powerful religious leaders. Pope Francis' message on climate change insists there's a moral imperative to save the Earth and serve the least among us by limiting greenhouse emissions. Part of the argument is a critique of the cap-and-trade system, which is basic to California's war against air pollution — and it took many environmentalists by surprise.

Guests:
David Baker, San Francisco Chronicle (@davidbakersf)
Scott Edwards, Food and Water Watch (@foodandwater)
Ethan Elkind, UC Berkeley and UCLA Schools of Law (@EthanElkind)

More:
Baker on the pope blasting California's cap-and-trade system
Edwards on the Pope's denunciation of pollution trading as a solution to climate change

Should the Bear Be Removed from California's Flag? 6 MIN

Republican US Senator Lindsay Graham and Republican Governor Niki Haley are just two of the South Carolina politicians who say it's time to take the Confederate Flag down from the state capitol grounds and relegate it to a history museum. They've linked it to the killings of nine black people last week in Charleston, and call it a symbol of racism and discrimination. What about California's state flag, which also has a troubling history? Novelist Alex Abella says it should go, too


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Guests:
Alex Abella, author and journalist (@alex_abella)

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